So I was watching a debate between Dr. Richard Carrier and Dr. Mike Licona. Dr. Carrier of course supports the theory that the resurrection and even the existence of Jesus Christ has no real basis in reality. Dr. Licona of course is a Christian Apologist.
There was one thing Licona said – about how the dead rise up in spirit and then when Jesus returns the bodies of the dead will be re-united with their spirit and then rise up. So that brought my mind directly to a question. What happens to the millions of billions of people who died prior to the formation of Christianity? Does their soul spend a time in purgatory? I doubt it since they died during belief of many gods, or ancestor worship.
It’s always funny when apologists don’t think something through.
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Some vintage Christian thinking on this. … 1. We live in time, a transient phenomennon. The General Resurrection occurs in eternity, which is also now, so tehre is noo “time” lapse betwen the indidvidual resurrection and the geenral resurrection )at teh end of time” (which, form eternity;’s point of view, is right now). At teh General Resurrection people an re reunited with their bodies, but the bodies are glorified, brought to all te perfection they can enjoy. But this happens, once you enter eternity, right now. No time lapse. So no one waits anywhere. …3. Those before Christ receive a Baptism of Desire (based on a iife of good will) or Fire (based on dying due to doing the right thing). … 3. The teaching of St. Maximus in the 500’s was approved by the Bishops of the Eastern Roman Empire and the Pope (Stephen, beheaded by the Emperor, the real head of the church when Italy was still under Roman/Byzantine control, for approving Maximus’s teaching but Maximus, after arrest and exile, was exonerated and his teachings re-approved). Maximus taught: “No one is saved until all are saved.” This is of course a reference to the General Resurrection but includes repentance after what we call death, and the old theologians would have called right now, the Eternal Now, Eternity. … Christian thinking grew cruder in the Middle/Germanic Ages and even cruder in US Protestant fundamentalism. Ask a Jesuit about all this. … Hope this helps.
this is a common question; I think most Apologists have a prepared response but I forget what it is.