Category: iraq

The Lies that Liars Tell

I found this on Mike the Mad Biologists blog.

Here’s a few choice citations:

17) On Meet the Press in July 2007, David Brooks declared that 10,000 Iraqis a month would perish if the United States pulled out. Bob Woodward, also on the show, challenged him on this, asking for his source. Brooks admitted, “I just picked that 10,000 out of the air.”

18) Also in July 2007, an old clip of a C-SPAN interview with Vice President Cheney from 1994 surfaced, in which he defended the decision not to depose Saddam Hussein during Gulf War I: “Once you got to Iraq and took it over…then what are you going to put in its place?…It’s a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.” He explained, “And the question for the president…was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right.”

You can find the whole list at The Iraq Follies article at Mother Jones Journal.

Here are my thoughts on the two items that I block quoted.

Mr. Brooks is a New York Times columnist. But here’s the thing, opinion doesn’t need to be substantiated by tangible evidence. But Mr. Brooks should be tossed from the NYT for pulling such a ludicrous number of 10,000 straight out of his poop chute.

Here, I’ll pull a number out of my ass too. I’d say that his number is the inverse, that while the U.S. occupies Iraq there are probably 10,000 or more deaths or Iraqi citizens, both directly and indirectly.

As for Mr. Cheney, here we have him on the record saying what folly it would be to invade Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein just eight years before he became Vice President of the United States. Cheney btw has long ties to the Reagan administration, along with ties to Halliburton, big oil, and all the things that we the little people don’t have any say over.

How Bush ever got elected in the first places comes into question here. But then the media was complicit in the cover-ups. Only those of us who have web access and read media in other countries got to see what was really behind these lying sacks of shit.

And don’t get me started on election irregularities, or the scorched earth tactics being employed by Hillary Clinton. Put it this way, who do we think is financing the Clinton campaign? It’s large corporate interests. Curiously the Obama campaign is the inverse, most of their donors are < $100 donors.

What Mrs. Clinton doesn’t realize is that by pursuing such a scorched earth policy, she dooms us to a continuation of the neocon agenda.

Anti-war Demonstrations

They’re happening. But the mainstream media won’t cover it so others step in to fill the void.

The Iraq Veterans Against War recently had a nice demonstration in Manhattan in which they showed people what they had to do in Iraq, while also voicing their opposition to the war.

Lets face it, Iraq is a debacle, a quagmire, or whatever you’d prefer to call it.

It’s beginning to look like….

Vietnam all over again. That’s what we all think the Iraq mess is turning into.

You have to ponder the question of who benefits most from warfare. As always, just follow the money. And if you ever have the chance, read “The Arms of Krupp 1587-1968” by William Manchester. It’s still in print though I have the original hardcover version given to me by a friend. It traces the development of the Krupp concern in Germany and how instrumental it was in World War II. And Krupp isn’t dead and gone yet, it’s part of ThyssenKrupp, the elevator people among other things. Even the logo for the company retains the three interlocked circles of Krupp with the arch of Thyssen.

I suppose some day someone will write “The Arms of Halliburton”. It’ll be quite a tale but where it took Krupp 400+ years to build up enough influence to propel a country into war, Halliburton did it in less than a century.

Back to the original subject, the other day I was with Keyron at one of his friends homes. We got on the topic of her son in law who already did one tour of duty in Iraq and now they want him back for another. The only problem is that while he was in Iraq he took two rounds to the back, and one round pretty much destroyed his right hand. He’s also suffering an extreme case of PTSD (It used to be called Shell Shocked back in the WW II era).

This kid is in no shape to go back to Iraq. But they’re calling. At last call he’s delayed until January and I hope our congressional representatives stop this craziness and pull our troops the hell out of Iraq. It’s evident that we’re no longer welcome there, yet the war hawks (corporations) don’t want the gravy train to stop just yet.

It’s part of the reason we’re paying close to $3 a gallon for gasoline. Yes, the military runs on dinosaur juice just like we do, and they get first cut.

So here we have it, it’s windfall profit time primarily for Halliburton but for the oil companies too. Yes it is about the oil but not the way you’d expect it to be. Take it a step further and it’s all about the cash. And one doesn’t have to look too far to see exactly who is connected to this in the Bush administration, it’s Dick Cheney.

So if you want to continue to see men in the prime of their lives get chewed up by the military, stay complacent. Just remember that the payback is coming as those men come home missing limbs and with their psyche fractured.

Hometown Baghdad is running a series called Hometown Baghdad. Right now six of the episodes are posted.

To see the struggle for normality is sad. The people shown are what is left of middle class Baghdad. We broke it and now we own it. The problem is that we’re not very good managers of other nations.

Another problem is that mainstream media will NEVER pickup stories like those above. To do so would be to remind the population of the United States of the folly of war. For example, why is it that electricity is only on for three hours at a time in Baghdad, but you can be damned sure that it’s on 24/7 in the Green Zone.

The videos show glimpses of that middle class Baghdad. The part about the radicals forbidding salad, you could tell that the guy thought that bordered on the ridiculous. And the dentist who proclaims he’s Muslim but a secularist. He wanted so badly to get out of Iraq and now he can’t because the government realized the brain drain and put limits on newly graduated doctors and dentists.

Oh and some of those boys need a brow shave but they’re cute otherwise.

A new feature

Over in the right hand column, near all my blog archives, clustrmaps, links, etc. is the new Iraq War Cost calculator. It keeps updating every second. Go ahead and click it and see what your city/state’s share of this number is.

It’s appalling, that’s what it is. The money being spent on this misadventure is a complete waste in terms of what good it could have done, and what lives have been lost.