Tag: gay marriage

And the bigot cavalcade starts up again in RI

Now that equality is the law in Rhode Island I note certain bigots just can’t let it sit. Oh no – the day before the historic vote and signing of the marriage equality bill, Asshat Thomas Tobin, bishop of the Diocese of Providence told Catholics they shouldn’t go to gay weddings, or support or recognize them.

I note that MassRestance’s top two articles are titled

Rhode Island Legislature votes for “gay marriage” after two “pro-family” Senators cave during Judiciary Committee vote.


Analysis: What really happened — how the marriage battle in Rhode Island was lost

Then I hear talk radio is seething with bigotry today. I don’t even have to listen in to know that talk radio has now become a cesspool of hate. Be it for President Obama, The Health Care Reform Act, or the Marriage Equality Act here in RI, they’ll spew hate like it’s a virtue.

It’s all par for the course but I think we’re going to see the rhetoric coarsen. It’ll lay bare the anti-gay animus that motivates every one of these hate groups, SPLC hate group tagged or not. I suspect the folks at the SPLC are going to be increasingly busier in the coming months and years as the root is exposed in all these groups.

Just goes to show that the bigots won’t stop. They can’t, because the basis of their animus is a thing called emotivism or what I colloquially call the ‘ick’ factor. They get grossed out, terrified and angry when thinking what two men or two women can get up to sexually. It’s pretty easy to spot. Look at Porno Petey LaBarbera, or Bryan Fischer, Peter Sprigg, Pastor Ted Haggard, Tony Perkins; the whole lot of them. All of them likely have a spot of sugar in the tank.

And I note that here in RI NOM has pretty much given up. I know their director Christopher Plante suffered a health issue but the thing is, an effective organization doesn’t dry up when their leader drops out of the picture. Good leadership dictates you train your people to take up the reigns at any moment. Interestingly NOM both locally and nationally lacks that ability.

Little RI is going to be used as the latest template by the bigots in what went wrong in NOM’s and the Churches little anti-gay campaign. But the thing is, the bigots will completely miss the message. The stars finally aligned in Rhode Island. And there’s no way they’re going to be able to repeal it here.

RI Governor Chafee Signs Marriage Equality Bill into Law

We were there. Had to listen to some bloviating from some of the pols, even Speaker Gordon Fox got a little choked up and teary when he was speaking.

All I can say is I never thought it would happen in RI. I thought we’d have to wait for the U.S. Supreme Court to finally give us our due. And it took far too long, 14+ years of long hours of testimony, of phone banking, of knocking on doors.

But alas, Rhode Island now becomes the tenth state with marriage equality.

Here’s Governor Lincoln Chafee talking about Marriage Equality. I did cut the video off when he started talking about economics of it. Sorry about that.

And here the Governor is signing the equality legislation into law. It’s over on the left hand side.

And the Providence Gay Men’s Chorus sings for the crowd.

And in my snarky mood – the bigots lost! Even Bishop Tobin is telling Catholics to avoid gay weddings. Really? Here’s mine, avoid Catholic churches.

Prop 8 Appeal to be Webcast: And Maggie Gallagher gets her panties in a bunch

gallagher in the crosshairs
gallagher in the crosshairs

Apparently Judge Vaughn has decided to webcast the proceedings of the Prop 8 appeal via the court’s YouTube channel.

Here’s the test of the system they’re using to switch off microphones or cameras if a witness doesn’t wish to be recorded:

And of course, Maggie “The Loathsome” Gallagher is already crying foul about it.

I’d like to pick apart a few things in Loathsome Gallagher’s article.

To deliberately and needlessly expose these people to a new wave of publicity and attacks by televising the trial is outrageous.

She need not worry. As evidenced in the above video, they can turn cameras and microphones on and off at will. So the bigots can remain under cover so to speak.

Prior to that quote above, Gallagher pulled this from the fun folks at the Heritage Foundation:

But this is no ordinary trial. This is a trial in a case where thousands of ordinary citizens have already faced a wave of hatred for participating in democracy. On Oct. 22, the Heritage Foundation released a report titled “The Price of Prop. 8,” which concluded that “supporters of Proposition 8 in California have been subjected to harassment, intimidation, vandalism, racial scapegoating, blacklisting, loss of employment, economic hardships, angry protests, violence, at least one death threat, and gross expressions of anti-religious bigotry.”

I must first make it clear, the people who supported such a discriminatory measure as Prop 8, or Question 1 in Maine, deserve my hatred, my ridicule and my scorn for they are bigots. It is one thing to personally dislike the fact that gay people can marry, it is entirely another when you sign your name to a petition, donate money, or allow usage of your visage in ads for the opposition.

Those who did the above acts need to understand then when one signs a petition or donates money, we all have the RIGHT to know that they did so. It’s all under the public records doctrine.

However I feel I must tell Loathsome Gallagher something: While your side suffers those slings and arrows, we gay people have experienced the exact same thing from bigots like you and your ilk. Regarding the death threat, I suspect that one is simply wishful thinking, a tempest in a teapot if you will, whereas we gay people have been murdered for even looking like we’re gay. When is the last time a religious bigot suffered that fate?

Maybe it’s because I surround myself with educated people. That’s right Maggie, educated. Your only claim to fame is that you’ve written as a family policy expert, I think Goebbels would be proud of you, repeat the same lie over and over again and it becomes the truth or at least so it is in your mind.

But so long as I’m around, I’m not going to let you get away with it.

A gross abomination? Prop 8 crazies

So I was perusing “Maybe it’s just me…” blog and came across this video. He got it from Joe My God.

There are many signs held up by those wishing to enshrine discrimination into the CA Constitution. But many of them and the megaphone preacher, expose the religious motivation behind this whole thing.

I should mention, I’m a dangerous atheist. Why? 12 years of Christian neigh Catholic training. I know their Bible and doctrine as well as or better than they do.

It’s odd, the religious know better than to come out and protest against us. You might get the idiots that protest gay pride, etc. but they’re pretty much drowned out in the crowds.

I almost wish they would though, because I know precisely what I’d do.

With megaphone in my left hand I’d drop to my knees, raise my gaze to the sky and uplift my right arm and say “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. ”

I mean if we really want to talk abominations, just read Leviticus and tell me f you really want to live in a world like that. By the way, explore the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible , it features the Bible, Quran and the Book of Mormon.

But all those people who support Prop 8 are guilty of using passages out of context. But that seems to be a common tactic among the religious for if you were to examine the entire book in context it falls apart at the seams.

And the link of morality to religion is just too much. You can be perfectly moral without religious hokum.

Getting your morality from the Bible means you’re just too lazy to formulate a moral stance on your own. You are an intellectual weakling preferring to be lead around by the nose than to stop and think about what you’re doing.

A conversation with GLAD

My cousin Tom and I had a very nice conversation with an attorney from GLAD today. Both of us now have a better understanding of the main obstacles to marriage equality in RI.

Now that we’ve had the conversation let me offer that I was astounded that the Rhode Island Supreme Court has only heard 3 gay oriented cases over the past decade or so. One was a custody case, another a palimony case. Of the justices that rules in favor of those two only one is still on the court.

The last of course is Ormiston v. Chambers.

Imagine my surprise learning that our courts are politically sensitive. I’d always thought that appointing justices for life would strike a measure of independence from the political. But that was just my over-simplified engineers view of things.

What shocks me even more is that no cases have been brought regarding denial of marriage licenses even though people have tried obtaining licenses in various municipalities.

It appears that our best weapon is time. In a bit over a year and a half it is more likely than not we’ll have a sitting Democrat as Governor, in a bit longer than that we may have new leadership in the House, and the Rhode Island Supreme Court can change too.

I’ll still agitate against religious interference, that’s something that needs to be done. And I’ll still agitate for people to contact their legislators and educate them on the issues we face.

Legal, political and educational. I think we have the legal grounds but we must overcome the political and educational biases.

Upon further reflection I do have a suggestion regarding educating Supreme Court Justices. We should start a letter writing campaign to all the justices. Tell them our stories. In essence, humanize ourselves.

Maybe then RI will have marriage equality. But RI moves slowly on everything, from Article 1 Section 2 being added in 1986, to our ENDA laws being enacted 10 years later.

But marriage equality is critical. Make no mistake about that. More critical is divorce equality. I encourage our senators to move to a vote on S0271.

I’m in this for the long haul.

Gay Marriage Thoughts

Right now I’m reading Dick Meyer’s “Why We Hate Us: American Discontent in New Millenium”. It’s a very interesting book in that it boils down just what is wrong with society in the U.S. right now.

But one part really struck me. He mentions feeling based judgment. I’m seeing some of this coming from the National Organization for Marriage, an oxymoron if there ever was one.

They feel that it is morally wrong for members of the same sex to marry. Their recent ads play on the poor children, having to understand why Heather has two mommies, or David has two daddies.

The real motive behind their campaign is explained by this quote form the book.

The idea of choosing goods and values individually, by taste, and preference, is what truthiness is all about. It actually has a philosophic pedigree. It is called “emotivism” a term resurrected by MacIntyre from early nineteeth-century British philosophy. In After Virtue, MacIntyre defines it this way: “Emotivism is the doctrine that all evaluative judgments and, more specifically all moral judgments are nothing but expressions of preference, expressions of attitude or feeling.” So in this view there is no difference in saying “the death penalty is wrong” and “I don’t like the death penalty.” “Gay marriage is immoral” is just another way of saying “I don’t like gay marriage.”

Now I have to go request MacIntyre’s “After Virtue” from the library. But it also exposes the arguments of groups like NOM, FoF and AFA. They’re operating purely on emotivism.

Expressions of preference, attitude or feeling. This precisely defines the crime committed by Maggie Gallagher and her associates and the anti-gay crowd.

I’m so glad I’m reading this book now because this will definitely play into my testimony on Thursday night. I know that NOM is already planning to pack the house, but I’m planning to hold seats too.

Of course those preferences and feelings come directly from their religious leanings. What I can’t reconcile is that you have a large group of Christian clerics in support of gay marriage, yet you have Gallagher who is opposed but she’ll never ever say why she really opposes gay marriage. Instead she’ll cite bogus studies, talk about the harm to the children, etc. It comes to my studies of the Bible, the NOM group is an Old Testament group. They see God and his law trumping all. But they will use deceptive tactics to make that point because they know the religious argument is no longer credible.

The wing nut crowd generally points to a few passages in Leviticus while ignoring all the others, and occasionally you’ll see a New Testament reference from 1st Corinthians. The source material is pretty thin and they’re guilt of taking it all out of context.

This makes what Gallagher and ilk like her disingenuous and wrong.

National Organization for Marriage running anti gay marriage ads in RI

I just got word from the MERI blog that the National Organization for Marriage is running ads on RI radio stations that are against gay marriage in RI. This six days before the hearing in the Senate Judiciary committee. (Feb. 26th).

If you’d like you can donate to the cause so that MERI can run counter ads.

Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way I need to say a few things.

First of all this is a Rhode Island issue, not a national issue. Yet the assholes at NOM will try and try to deny we gay people the right to marry.

It goes without saying that their opposition to gay marriage is rooted in religion. Of course they’ll run an ad saying their little precious snowflake shouldn’t have to hear about two mommies or two daddies. Boo fucking hoo.

That kind of propaganda really pisses me off because I know that the root of their arguments lay in several passages in the Bible but the most egregious are in Leviticus and in 1 Corinthians Book 6, verses 9-10.

But think for a moment. If you read the entire book of Leviticus you see that it does a few things. Initially it sets up God’s elect on earth, the clergy. Then it sets up the structure to support the clergy. Lastly it puts together rules to grow a small tribe into a large tribe by prohibiting contact with blood, shellfish, pork, and finally homosexual activity.

The thing that gets me is don’t you think an omniscient God would know about homosexuality and at least have a word for it other than “he who lay with another man as with woman.”

Reading through the entire Bible you get the sense that God is something of an idiot. He’d have to be, after all he let Lucifer become Satan.

I have a message for Maggie Gallagher from NOM. Shut your fucking pie hole. And I do hope I get to testify before you do because I’m going to shoot you down.

Almost missed this one

See what happens when you go three days without a net connection? I found this anti gay marriage screed in the ProJo Letters to the Editor section.

As usual I’ll take it apart piece by piece.

Costa A. Adamopoulos Jr.: Husband and wife a sacred bond

01:00 AM EDT on Saturday, July 5, 2008

The writer of the May 22 editorial “Historic advance for gays” writes that “younger Americans” are “far more accepting than their elders of homosexual relationships” and suggests that, over time, “much of the fuss will simply wither.” Yet the same editorial states that “Americans have widely resisted gay marriage. More than half the states have constitutional amendments prohibiting it.” If over half of our nation’s states have taken proactive steps to ban so-called “gay marriage,” then would it not be safe to conclude that homosexual activity is not as acceptable as the author so boldly claims?

If “younger Americans” are, in truth, “far more accepting than their elders of homosexual relationships” that is principally because “younger Americans” have received their moral upbringing from the wrong source: namely the mass media. If individuals lack a moral standard by which to measure their credos, then anything whatsoever becomes morally permissible. This permissiveness is not freedom; it is license — the unrestrained liberty to do what one pleases.

It is because todays generation grew up with the church abuse scandals, hypocrisy on the part of many preachers. Just check out Onanites blog for more info on that! I think the youth of today see the double standard pushed forth by those who think religion is the basis for morality. It is not.

Regarding unrestrained liberty, it seems Mr. Adamopoulos never heard the phrase “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. He equates homosexuality and gay marriage with murder, rape, etc. This is a standard tactic used by the churches to try and deny rights to the last segment of the population that it’s ok to openly hate. From the tone of the Adamopoulos letter I’m fairly certain that he has membership in a church, maybe Catholic or maybe even Greek Orthodox. It isn’t just the Southern Baptists who have a lock on crazy, all the religions have their batshit crazy ideas.

But I will say that certain pastors harp on the anti-gay message more than others. Put it this way, their biggest fear is that if gay marriage becomes a reality that the lawsuits against the churches will follow. Would someone please point to the suits against the churches in Massachusetts that by the logic of Adamopoulos should surely have happened by now?

The second concern is the reference to these so-called “polls.” The author cites no sources, produces no statistics, gives no concrete evidence at all; nor does the writer indicate who these “younger Americans” are.

Apparently this gentleman doesn’t have net access. The numbers are all over the web. I wonder if that would be a good enough citation for Mr. Adamopoulos.

I would agree that marriage is not easy. Sacrifices and demands made on both partners can be tough at times. I concur that marriage affords “stability, support, and the deep satisfaction that comes with commitment.” Finally, I am in full accord with the statement that “it is a fine foundation for nurturing families.”

Here he extols the virtues of marriage but he’s blind to his own hatefulness and bigotry.

Where I part company with the author is the nature of the union. Taking the religious argument out of the picture for a moment, homosexual activity is wrong by design. The sexual act of one man and one woman was and is designed to do two things: first, it was designed to bind the husband and wife more closely together; and, second, to foster stability within the marital union for the procreation of children, and the successful rearing of them in the event conception takes place.

“…wrong by design…”, also known as the parts don’t fit. I think John Corvino has done a good job dispelling this argument. They do indeed fit. Adamopoulos thinks a marriages prime function is to act as baby making machines. By his arguments, a childless couple is the subversion of his god’s command to be “fruitful and multiply”.

Homosexual activity (and the idea of “gay marriage”) is wrong. No legislature, no judiciary, no popular vote, no public opinion, can change that.




No Mr. Adamopoulos, it is not wrong. It’s oh so right. This guy seems to think that the will of the majority or in this case the religious whack job minority should rule over everyone. That’s not how a Democratic Republic works. He thinks his religious beliefs can subvert the will of the people, isn’t that special.