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So it was the religious and the uneducated (Prop 8)

Those are the two common demographics that are emerging from the Proposition 8 fight in California. The people who voted against equality and enshrined hate into a constitution were either religious, uneducated, or both in my view.

Religion tends to enforce utter faith in the words of the Bible and of the pastors. It scorns education in general since those who created the current monotheistic religions knew that once you applied the test of critical thought, religion flies out the window. I think that’s why the great classical era is so interesting since they had a panoply of gods to worship. It kept their minds a bit sharper, didn’t allow for one god to run the whole show.

It is why I say that I’d be happier if organized religion were to disappear tomorrow. I’m tired of my life being overruled by those who wave a Bible in my face. A single book does not an education make.

But this is also why we’re seeing fights to insert creationism into science texts in many states, as well as the open persecution of anyone who doesn’t toe the abstinence line. The of course there is the anti-abortion crowd, the anti-gay crowd, and their ilk.

The ones that scare me most are the Dominionists. Do they really want to live under Gods Law? Death penalty for what things like adultery, no divorce, no shellfish, no mixed fabrics, men required to wear beards, a woman who is undergoing menstruation is determined as unclean and has to stick to the prohibitions in Leviticus. These are people who want to wind the clock back to the 50’s, not the 1950’s but the 50CE era. They want to apply a harsh desert theology to modern society. My guess is that we’d see precisely the clashes we’re seeing right now.

The reality is that they want to control what OTHER people say and do. A return to the Puritanism of the early settlers of the U.S. For even back then the rules really didn’t apply to the men in power. Remind you of anyone today, maybe Bush & Co?

It’s time for we thinking people to stamp out religious ignorance. I know it is a tall order but I think we have the momentum to shut down the ignorance once and for all. As I always say, the churches have had a minimum of six millennium to try and get it right and they’ve failed miserably.

Prop 8 – The Musical

You’ve got to check out this video, Prop 8 The Musical.

I was beaming while watching it. I don’t have much else to say about it since I think it is fairly clear where I stand on the issue of writing discrimination into a state constitution. I also think my views on the electorate at large are pretty well known too since I applaud the founders for making this a Representative Republic and not a true Democracy.

Bread and circuses (Panem et circenses)., that is what the founders feared when they wrote the U.S. Constitution. That is also why I feel that voter initiative circumvents the desires of the founders as well as tramples the rights of the minorities.

And that’s the other thing, the minorities. I’m hearing all over the web that black and Latino people overwhelmingly voted for Prop 8. Are they so stupid as to not realize that an initiative could also be used to deny them rights.

I justify that last paragraph with the moves to eliminate equal opportunity. It’s the same as denying gay people the right to marry.

Mark me as one who is tired of so called Christians, remember you John 8:7 “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

I find John 8 to be very interesting. It illustrates to me the true vision of Christ that the Christians should embrace, not the mean and vindictive God of the Old Testament. But here I go again, all that Christian education and me the flaming atheist.

AFA needs to stop whining about the mistreatment of Mormons

Once again the AFA is upset because their Moronmon brethren are under attack. It isn’t just their Mormon brethren, but their Catholic brethren too. You don’t hear them talk much about Catholic persecution because quite frankly they wish the Catholic Church would go away.

It’s funny, when they don’t have something to rally around they’ll all sit and point finger at each other. But give them a rallying cry and suddenly their dogmatic differences don’t matter.

Gays launch hate attack against Mormons because of their support for traditional marriage

Thank the LDS church for its support of Proposition 8

Dear Friend,

Homosexual activists have launched a hate campaign against the Mormons because of the church’s support for Proposition 8 in California. Prop 8 defined marriage as being between a man and a woman.

A hate campaign? No, we’ve simply launched a campaign to claim our rights and perhaps get the IRS to revoke the tax exempt status of the Mormon church. It isn’t hate, it’s justice. The AFA gets very confused on that issue. When things are going their way it’s justice, when they’re not it’s hate.

I don’t hate the Mormon Church, I just want to see it dry up and blow away, same as I’d like to see happen to the Southern Baptists, some of the Catholics, and a few of the more hard line Jewish and Muslim Abrahamic and monotheistic traditions.

As a society I feel we’d be much better off if we stopped focusing on a sky fairy and instead focused on our helping our fellow man. That’s a pretty radical idea isn’t it. Remind you of anyone?

Here are some examples of how gays are targeting Mormons:

* A lawsuit by Fred Karger, homosexual activist, claims that the Mormons violated election laws in California.
* Richard Raddon, director of the Los Angeles Film Festival, was forced to resign when it was discovered he contributed $1,500 to support Prop 8.
* Homosexual groups are calling for the revocation of tax-exempt status.
* For more examples, Google “Mormons prop 8.”

The Karger lawsuit has merit. The Mormons did violate election law and should lose their tax exemption because of it.

In the case of Raddon, he didn’t have to resign. He just couldn’t take the heat that he’d been found out. Screw him.

And yes, we are calling for revocation of the tax exempt status. That’s what happens when a church tries to step into the political fray. Remember Jefferson’s wall between church and state? We want to enforce that.

The Mormons played a vital role in the Prop 8 battle, and traditional marriage would have lost had it not been for their support. While other churches were also involved in the battle to protect marriage – including Catholics and evangelicals – the homosexuals have singled out the Mormons as their target of anger.

Thank you Donald Wildmon and the AFA for admitting that the Mormons overstepped their boundaries on this one. And we haven’t singled out just the Mormons, they themselves made sure they’d be the single beneficiary of our wrath. Let me tell you something, at the Prop 8 rally here in RI I told the people around me that we shouldn’t be rallying on the steps of State House, we should instead start there and march directly over to the Diocesean Offices and residence of Bishop Tobin and protest there.

Because in Rhode Island the Catholic Church is our biggest enemy when it comes to marriage equality.

I urge you to sign the petition thanking the LDS for their good work in the marriage battle. Several nationally known leaders have already expressed their support. In addition to myself, the list includes Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Charles Colson of Prison Fellowship, Tony Perkins of Family Research Council, Paul Weyrich of Free Congress Foundation, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, and Gary Bauer of American Values. We will forward the petition to LDS leaders.

If there was a god, I’d hope that he/she/it would strike down the likes of Perkins, Dobson, Wildmon et al. of their religiously motivated ilk. The fact that they’re still foaming at the mouth sort of proves my point.

I often wonder, what would happen if they got their wish and we were all pushed back into the closet. What would they complain about then. Would they consider the high divorce rates in the U.S.? Would they try to feed, clothe and shelter the homeless?

Probably not. The men I talked of two paragraphs ago aren’t in this for the greater glory of any god, they’re in it for themselves.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has offered “prayerful support and steadfast solidarity” to the LDS church for its efforts on behalf of Proposition 8.
Take Action! Sign the Petition NOW!

Thank you for caring enough to get involved. If you feel our efforts are worthy of support, would you consider making a small tax-deductible contribution to help us continue?



Donald E. Wildmon,
Founder and Chairman
American Family Association

I think it goes without saying that I won’t sign their petition, nor will I donate any money to cretins like Willdmon.

In short, fuck off AFA. On the one hand I’m glad I’m on your email list because I get to find out what pisses you off. Then I can add fuel to the fire.

But seriously, to my brothers and sisters out there keep up the fight against the Mormon church and lets spread a little of that fight to the Catholic churches too.